In a recent segment on “The Breakfast Club,” host Charlamagne Tha God engaged with Vivek Ramaswamy, discussing the controversial MAGA slogan and its implications for America’s future.

Ramaswamy presented a unique take, advocating for a vision that seeks not only to reclaim past greatness but to exceed it, proposing an even greater America.

Charlamagne posed a pointed question about the ongoing political allegiance to MAGA, asking, “Why do y’all continue to bend the knee to MAGA then?”

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Ramaswamy responded with a reflective interpretation of the MAGA ideology, saying, “Well, what is MAGA? Right? We could talk about that. I think that there are many flavors of MAGA and the idea of making here’s where I here’s my flavor of it. Okay, I’m not somebody who tries to harken back to a past and say, oh, I want to go back to the America that I grew up in the America that I represent the future America should be and could be. I want to make America greater than it has ever been before.”

He elaborated on his perspective, emphasizing America’s inherent imperfections and the constant aspiration towards excellence, “Yes, so I don’t just want to make America great again. I want to make America greater than ever, and that’s what our country has always been founded on, which recognize, which involves recognizing that we’re imperfect because we’re human beings. We always fall short of our ideals. We wouldn’t be human beings if we’d be a nation of you know, I know you Charlamagne the God, but we’d be a nation of Gods if we did not, if we did not fall short of our ideals. But we’re not a nation of gods. We’re a nation of human beings. And so we’re imperfect, but we aspire towards excellence. We aspire towards a better nation.”

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Ramaswamy concluded with a call for unity and ambition, presenting his reimagined MAGA as a potentially unifying force, “And so to me, I think that’s an ambitious, hopefully unifying version of a MAGA message that I do believe in, and I think people are hungry for, and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that message.”

This wan’t the only time Vivek recently made waves. Take this recent segment on CNN, for example. Watch:

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Vivek recently took Kamala Harris to task over her evolving stances on several key policy issues, including fracking and healthcare. During a CNN segment, Ramaswamy highlighted inconsistencies between Harris’s past actions and her current positions, calling for greater scrutiny and transparency from the Vice President.

Ramaswamy pointed out, “You brought up some claims about Kamala Harris, I want to finish that discussion. She said she didn’t favor a ban on fracking. Now the reality is, she was one of the strongest proponents of that ban, so much so that when she was in California, she sued the Obama administration over granting fracking permits. She didn’t just favor the abolition of private health insurance. She was a co-sponsor of the bill, with Bernie Sanders as a US senator for Medicare for all, for Americans.”

He continued to dissect Harris’s record, particularly focusing on her environmental and healthcare policies. “The reality is, when you think about the Green New Deal, she was the chief proponent, not just as a co-sponsor of the legislation, but going further and saying she would end the filibuster in the Senate to ram that through.”

Ramaswamy stressed the need for Harris to provide clear explanations for her policy shifts, especially given her significant role in shaping national policy. “So the reality is, she can say what she wants to say now. Those are actions she has taken. Is someone allowed to evolve? Of course they are. But she deserves to explain exactly why she’s changed those positions.”

He questioned what Harris’s current positions might be if they have indeed shifted from her earlier, more progressive stances. “Exactly what her position is, if it’s not a ban on fracking, what exactly is it? What exactly is her health care plan if she no longer favors abolishing private health insurance? Was just four short years ago when she ran for president. She did, and that’s the kind of scrutiny that’s been missing.”

Ramaswamy contrasted the level of scrutiny faced by Harris to that experienced by former President Donald Trump, noting, “I think Donald Trump has received plenty of scrutiny, and I give credit to him for sitting for hostile interviews that Kamala Harris has not.”

The call for Harris to clarify her positions underscores a broader dialogue about accountability and transparency in politics, especially as leaders evolve or change their stances on pivotal issues.

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Ramaswamy’s comments highlight an ongoing debate within American politics about the consistency and sincerity of politicians’ commitments to their previously stated policies.