On a recent episode of The PBD Podcast, host Patrick Bet-David spoke with Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd about a harrowing incident involving a suspect who killed a canine handler and stole his firearm, leading to a fatal confrontation with law enforcement.

Sheriff Judd recounted the series of events, saying, “This guy shot and killed our K9, shot and killed our K9 handler, shot the backup deputy, then took the dead K9 handler’s firearm and ran into the woods. City police came to back us up, shot at two of them and happened to miss them. Well, the next day, we had the area surrounded. The next morning, when we had daylight, we had a SWAT team walk shoulder to shoulder through this wooded area in order to find him. Well, he pointed the dead deputy’s gun at a SWAT team. What do you think is going to happen? You’re going to get shot a lot. You’re going to get shot so much you can read the Sunday New York Times through you. And that’s what happened.”

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Bet-David emphasized the gravity of the situation, noting, “68 times.”

“68 times,” Judd confirmed.

Bet-David then pointed out the lack of hesitation in Judd’s stance on the matter, “In your mind, you’re not even flinching. We did it right. We should have done more.”

Judd explained the swift nature of the deadly encounter, “Well, that’s how quick it happens, and that happens in a matter of a second and a half. I mean, you’re pointing a deputy’s gun at a SWAT team.”