In a recent episode of Joe Rogan’s podcast, guest Michael Malice joined Rogan to discuss the reasons behind Kamala Harris’s failed presidential campaign.

They focused on the significant role Tulsi Gabbard played in Harris’s downfall and criticized the media for ignoring or downplaying Gabbard’s impact.

Joe Rogan began by expressing his frustration with the media’s portrayal of Kamala Harris. “It all bothers me, the fragility of the human mind. You know that we’re so everybody forever was like, Kamala Harris is the worst vice president. She’s the least popular vice president of all time. And then in a moment, a moment in time, all of a sudden, she’s our solution. She’s our hero. Everybody’s with her. All these social media posts about her, try Googling a negative story on her, you won’t find one.”

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Michael Malice agreed and emphasized Gabbard’s crucial role in Harris’s campaign troubles. “So, you’ve got me started, Officer Harris, so they’ve been doing this live for years. So in 2019 our pal Tulsi absolutely nuked her in that second debate.”

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Rogan affirmed Malice’s point, saying, “Right.”

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Malice continued, explaining the impact of Gabbard’s debate performance. “And if you looked at charts at the time, she’s kind of Officer Harris is like doing okay? First of it, she comes out. Joe Biden, you’re a racist. The Democrats were looking for an alternative to Bernie Sanders. That wasn’t Biden. She starts going up in the polls, right? Second debate comes out. Tulsi, being a good Hawaiian knows how to roast the pig. This completely slams her. Not only that, she has no counter punch. She goes on Anderson Cooper, and she’s like, Well, I’m a top tier candidate, so of course, people gonna take shots at me. That’s her answer. She immediately starts going down in the polls. It’s that day. You can see it on the chart I have in my Twitter all the articles at the time that did an autopsy on Kamala Harris’s failed campaign didn’t mention Tulsi once. Yeah, it was BBC, LA Times, Reuters, New Yorker, a guy from The Washington Post just did a piece looking back on her campaign, didn’t mention Tulsi either. They come while they completely pretend it didn’t happen.”

Rogan pointed out the discrepancy in the media’s narrative. “Well, it just shows you that what they’re looking for is not what they say they’re looking for.”

Malice concurred, “Yes.”

Rogan elaborated on Gabbard’s credentials, which the media seemed to overlook. “Because she is a strong woman. She is a person who served overseas twice. In a medical unit so she got to see people blown up by the war. She was a congresswoman for eight years. Yeah, she is a person of color. She’s everything you want, all those things you want, yet you don’t want her.”

Malice concluded that Gabbard’s anti-war stance made her an outlier. “Because she’s not for war.”

Rogan added that Gabbard’s unwillingness to conform to the political game played a role in her being sidelined. “Yes, well, she’s also just not willing to play ball. There’s a game that’s being played, and if you’re like, hey, you’re not supposed to fucking move the ball, like, Oh, look at this bitch over here. Like, get out of here. You’re gonna fuck up our game. It’s not real democracy. It’s controlled parties.”